Huge amounts of efforts were put in by Perfect Guy, myself, and other hackers about two years ago -- we couldn't get anything finished.

The problem is that each course is made up of a number of panels, each of which contains (IIRC) 32x32 little tiles eight pixels on a side.  (For reference, one of those round barrier things that line the course is two tiles, or 16 pixels, wide.)

You can't simply rearrange the panels (though this is what was done by the programmers in F-Zero BS) because they're designed to line up with the ones that surround them, and if I remember right, the arrangement of the tiles within the panels was compressed. 

We then applied these insights to FZMV, and Perfect Guy discovered all kinds of things, including the compression algorithm, where the music was stored, etc., etc.,  That game used panels 8x8 tiles in size, which is more manageable, but even then the panels have to line up perfectly, which means that you get stuck trying to find any panels that fit rather than actually creating a course with style.  Here, too, you'd basically have to redraw panels to your liking, and I don't think we ever made much progress on this.

What might be doable is to take the editor in Climax, which sets up the panels so that they line up with others very well, and edit a few of the more redundant panels to make more interesting setups, leaving the borders (which have to link to the next part of the track) intact.  I haven't attempted this much, though it's worth a shot!

Yes, an editor for the original would be awesome.  One thing that disappointed me about Climax's editor was that you couldn't place jump plates in the middle of the track pieces like you could in the original.  I had some track layouts that I drew on paper as a kid that I wanted to recreate, but I would need the original to do it.
I really think you guys should not abandon the project and I thank you for having even taken it on.  If I can help in any way, I will.

Turbo852 wrote:

Yes, an editor for the original would be awesome.  One thing that disappointed me about Climax's editor was that you couldn't place jump plates in the middle of the track pieces like you could in the original.  I had some track layouts that I drew on paper as a kid that I wanted to recreate, but I would need the original to do it. I really think you guys should not abandon the project and I thank you for having even taken it on.  If I can help in any way, I will.

Actually, I meant something more like this:

Whoa, thanks buti for letting me post links!



I want to have jump plates in the middle of a track piece so that you can jump anywhere you want.  Many tracks in F-Zero have jump plates like this, but the Climax editor doesn't let you put in jump plates like this.

You took my idea Yamaraja!  I was going to post the same thing but never did! Oh, well.

Anyways, I would like to see this kind of thing come out like Lunar Magic did for Super Mario World.

well looks like someone has done some level editing

p.s. dam these tracks look tough

www.youtube.com/watch

 

http://sldnoonmoon.hp.infoseek.co.jp/neo/fuzee/index.html

Although is in Japanese :(

 

Edit: Found a tread with another (I think) editor

http://acmlm.kafuka.org/board/thread.php?id=3366